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		<title>By: yea - right!</title>
		<link>http://40yearoldatheist.com/the-chocolate-on-top-of-shit-argument-for-god/2008/10/comment-page-1/#comment-1601</link>
		<dc:creator>yea - right!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 02:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea right!  And for those out there like myself who are wondering who any of the promises from God and the Bile are true for and begin to actually look at the FACT that none of it is true it is relieving and freeing.  No more wondering what yo did wrong.  No more wondering why decades of prayers all get no answers.  no more wondering why the Bible says that God has told us &quot;ask and it shall be given&quot; and other such myths.  None of it bears out in any way.  No other legend or myth gets o much verbal defense with no real physical or factual defense to be found anywhere.  I prefer to be intelligent about things rather than try to hang on to proven failure of all promises in Christianity.  I just can no longer talk myself into acting stupid when I am having very sensible, intelligent realizations that it is all shit - and each may make their own decision about the chocolate.  If the promises and teachings of Christianity were put on trial, they would fail to be proven anywhere, any time.  No proof of any of the teachings of how to live or act or believe having any merit.  Pure legend and shit.  Truth and the acceptance of the same may be very vanilla and plain but at least it is truth and needs no chocolates to make it palatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea right!  And for those out there like myself who are wondering who any of the promises from God and the Bile are true for and begin to actually look at the FACT that none of it is true it is relieving and freeing.  No more wondering what yo did wrong.  No more wondering why decades of prayers all get no answers.  no more wondering why the Bible says that God has told us &#8220;ask and it shall be given&#8221; and other such myths.  None of it bears out in any way.  No other legend or myth gets o much verbal defense with no real physical or factual defense to be found anywhere.  I prefer to be intelligent about things rather than try to hang on to proven failure of all promises in Christianity.  I just can no longer talk myself into acting stupid when I am having very sensible, intelligent realizations that it is all shit &#8211; and each may make their own decision about the chocolate.  If the promises and teachings of Christianity were put on trial, they would fail to be proven anywhere, any time.  No proof of any of the teachings of how to live or act or believe having any merit.  Pure legend and shit.  Truth and the acceptance of the same may be very vanilla and plain but at least it is truth and needs no chocolates to make it palatable.</p>
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		<title>By: yea - right!</title>
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		<dc:creator>yea - right!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 02:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea - right.  More chocolate covered shit and this time sprinkles too, huh.  Bullshit without chocolate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea &#8211; right.  More chocolate covered shit and this time sprinkles too, huh.  Bullshit without chocolate.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Cheap Auto Insurance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Niel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>barkod dedi?imizde bundan birka? y?l ?nce akl?m?za sadece ?izgiler ve bo?lukar gelirdi. Zaten t?rk?eye de ?izgi kod olarak uyarland?. Ama ?uanda teknolojinin geli?mesine paralel olarak, bir?ok barkod g?rseli varyasyonu ?retildi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>barkod dedi?imizde bundan birka? y?l ?nce akl?m?za sadece ?izgiler ve bo?lukar gelirdi. Zaten t?rk?eye de ?izgi kod olarak uyarland?. Ama ?uanda teknolojinin geli?mesine paralel olarak, bir?ok barkod g?rseli varyasyonu ?retildi.</p>
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		<title>By: dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh by the way dude .... one form of chocolate coated shit is the fundamentalist belief in the rational ... the scientific argument ... this is another form of fundamentalism ... see thomas kuhns argument on paradigm shifts .. look im not saying the church is perfect ... I dont think it is at all... just that we need to embrace diversity and be open to new understandings to tell shit from chocolate ok enough !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh by the way dude &#8230;. one form of chocolate coated shit is the fundamentalist belief in the rational &#8230; the scientific argument &#8230; this is another form of fundamentalism &#8230; see thomas kuhns argument on paradigm shifts .. look im not saying the church is perfect &#8230; I dont think it is at all&#8230; just that we need to embrace diversity and be open to new understandings to tell shit from chocolate ok enough !!</p>
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		<title>By: dom</title>
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		<dc:creator>dom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey dude i woke up today with a revelation from the big G ... that is that most people in the church cant tell shit from chocolate .. this includes me ... I am a believer .. I reckon that most believers turn to a belief in a higher power due to eating shit throughout their lives and being told it is chocolate ... eventually this gets the upper hand ... if you eat shit thinking its chocolate its not the nicest experience ... however if you are too scared to eat the chocolate in your life thinking it might be shit ... you also lose out ... so i think it is necessary to maintain discernment between shit and chocolate .. for example church structures are shit ... but relationship with a higher power some call god is chocolate ... just ask anyone who has been through the AA twelve steps the necessity of turning over our shortcomings to a higher power ..., anyway dude ... it takes a higher power sometimes to tell those of us that have been screwed over in life the difference between shit and chocolate ... NOT THE CHURCH ... GOD himself ...  I am for one so thick that I needed to hear it from the big G himself ... so dont condemn us for at least trying not to eat the societal shit that life dishes out ... thanks for your time ... GOD bless dom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey dude i woke up today with a revelation from the big G &#8230; that is that most people in the church cant tell shit from chocolate .. this includes me &#8230; I am a believer .. I reckon that most believers turn to a belief in a higher power due to eating shit throughout their lives and being told it is chocolate &#8230; eventually this gets the upper hand &#8230; if you eat shit thinking its chocolate its not the nicest experience &#8230; however if you are too scared to eat the chocolate in your life thinking it might be shit &#8230; you also lose out &#8230; so i think it is necessary to maintain discernment between shit and chocolate .. for example church structures are shit &#8230; but relationship with a higher power some call god is chocolate &#8230; just ask anyone who has been through the AA twelve steps the necessity of turning over our shortcomings to a higher power &#8230;, anyway dude &#8230; it takes a higher power sometimes to tell those of us that have been screwed over in life the difference between shit and chocolate &#8230; NOT THE CHURCH &#8230; GOD himself &#8230;  I am for one so thick that I needed to hear it from the big G himself &#8230; so dont condemn us for at least trying not to eat the societal shit that life dishes out &#8230; thanks for your time &#8230; GOD bless dom</p>
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		<title>By: the rebel teapot</title>
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		<dc:creator>the rebel teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi -- this is such an old post, but I got the link to your blog via Friendly Atheist and wanted to read what you&#039;ve got up here. 


And this argument is exactly what I&#039;ve been thinking of -- I&#039;m currently in a class that I&#039;ll describe as &quot;early history of the Bible&quot; and, this being my first real introduction to anything not all love and Christ, I&#039;m coming across this really, really unfamiliar characterization of God and yeah, that&#039;s what I&#039;ve been thinking. Cherrypicking. Cherrypick from Leviticus to condemn gays but ignore all those strict rules about diet and things. 


So I guess what I&#039;m trying to say is, you&#039;re so right, and you&#039;ve put it really well, and I&#039;ll try to use your term whenever I can remember because it&#039;s very apt. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi &#8212; this is such an old post, but I got the link to your blog via Friendly Atheist and wanted to read what you&#8217;ve got up here. </p>
<p>And this argument is exactly what I&#8217;ve been thinking of &#8212; I&#8217;m currently in a class that I&#8217;ll describe as &#8220;early history of the Bible&#8221; and, this being my first real introduction to anything not all love and Christ, I&#8217;m coming across this really, really unfamiliar characterization of God and yeah, that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve been thinking. Cherrypicking. Cherrypick from Leviticus to condemn gays but ignore all those strict rules about diet and things. </p>
<p>So I guess what I&#8217;m trying to say is, you&#8217;re so right, and you&#8217;ve put it really well, and I&#8217;ll try to use your term whenever I can remember because it&#8217;s very apt. </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 03:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ed. And thanks for the link to the diabetes piece. Yes, there are hopeful treatments on the horizon. Good news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ed. And thanks for the link to the diabetes piece. Yes, there are hopeful treatments on the horizon. Good news.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

I just wanted to say that I had made my earlier posts after skimming just a few pages of your website.  I am really impressed by the detail and candor.

I really didn&#039;t intend to come off so &quot;Pollyannaish&quot;.

My oldest son was diagnosed with Graves disease when he was 13.  Fortunately, it is not too difficult to manage medically.

Finding satisfying answers to life&#039;s difficult questions is not easy and while I respectfully disagree with many of your conclusions, the comprehensiveness of your work is impressive.  At least you&#039;ve given it some thought, right?  Unlike someone who argues that the earth is 6000 years old.  (Unless they just don&#039;t have the scientific aptitude to understand basic chemistry which they should at least have the courtesy to admit.)

Trying to make sense of tough concepts like eternal torment and the tremendous amount of pain and suffering in our present world is no easy task.  Frankly, when you couple that with the hypocrisy which is so prevalent in today&#039;s Christian Church, it&#039;s easy to see how prevalent atheism has become.

I&#039;ve got to get back to work but if it&#039;s all right, in a future post I&#039;d like to toss out a couple of ideas for your consideration.  I&#039;d be curious to see what you and / or others think.

Those medicines look promising, especially since they&#039;re already in use by cancer patients with minimal side effects.  Perhaps in Canada you&#039;ll be able to move faster toward clinical trials than down in the States.

Respectfully,

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>I just wanted to say that I had made my earlier posts after skimming just a few pages of your website.  I am really impressed by the detail and candor.</p>
<p>I really didn&#8217;t intend to come off so &#8220;Pollyannaish&#8221;.</p>
<p>My oldest son was diagnosed with Graves disease when he was 13.  Fortunately, it is not too difficult to manage medically.</p>
<p>Finding satisfying answers to life&#8217;s difficult questions is not easy and while I respectfully disagree with many of your conclusions, the comprehensiveness of your work is impressive.  At least you&#8217;ve given it some thought, right?  Unlike someone who argues that the earth is 6000 years old.  (Unless they just don&#8217;t have the scientific aptitude to understand basic chemistry which they should at least have the courtesy to admit.)</p>
<p>Trying to make sense of tough concepts like eternal torment and the tremendous amount of pain and suffering in our present world is no easy task.  Frankly, when you couple that with the hypocrisy which is so prevalent in today&#8217;s Christian Church, it&#8217;s easy to see how prevalent atheism has become.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got to get back to work but if it&#8217;s all right, in a future post I&#8217;d like to toss out a couple of ideas for your consideration.  I&#8217;d be curious to see what you and / or others think.</p>
<p>Those medicines look promising, especially since they&#8217;re already in use by cancer patients with minimal side effects.  Perhaps in Canada you&#8217;ll be able to move faster toward clinical trials than down in the States.</p>
<p>Respectfully,</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

Good news on the medical front for type 1 diabetes.

Here&#039;s the link to a recent MSNBC report.  They&#039;re talking about starting clinical trials within a year.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://whatwehavehereis.blogspot.com/2008/11/possible-type-1-diabetes-cure.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://whatwehavehereis.blogspot.com/2008/11/possible-type-1-diabetes-cure.html&lt;/a&gt;

I found it on a Christian site (sorry).

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Good news on the medical front for type 1 diabetes.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the link to a recent MSNBC report.  They&#8217;re talking about starting clinical trials within a year.</p>
<p><a href="http://whatwehavehereis.blogspot.com/2008/11/possible-type-1-diabetes-cure.html" rel="nofollow">http://whatwehavehereis.blogspot.com/2008/11/possible-type-1-diabetes-cure.html</a></p>
<p>I found it on a Christian site (sorry).</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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